Admiral Nimitz: "Yesturday" is spelled "Yesterday." Sorry.
2001-04-01 09:01:50-06
Admiral Nimitz: "Yesturday" is spelled "Yesterday." Sorry.
2001-04-01 09:02:10-06
Zan Lynx: Bitscape's latest movie log. April Fools Day. Bitscape's latest movie log. Hmm...
2001-04-01 14:10:53-06
Jäger: well, bakterium has a new splash screen. But still no content. Will I get around to updating my website before bse?
2001-04-01 19:01:53-06
bse: bitscape, afaik, region 2. it's a pioneer drive.. so it might have a firmware hack or something..
2001-04-02 07:08:19-06
bse: ah.. the content is coming ;)
2001-04-02 07:08:30-06
bse: you're all using 5th generation browsers i hope ;)
2001-04-02 18:55:09-06
Jäger: Of course.
2001-04-02 20:07:27-06
Bitscape: In this day and age? I should think so.
2001-04-02 21:35:15-06
Jäger: The one true way.
2001-04-03 09:50:52-06
Jäger checks in using 0.8.1
2001-04-03 10:52:32-06
Jäger: Ok, I'm stupid. Can anyone clue me in to what "all your base are belong to us" references?
2001-04-03 21:22:32-06
Bitscape: A sloppily translated video game from many years ago.
2001-04-03 22:15:44-06
Zan Lynx: Named Zero Wing
2001-04-04 07:29:24-06
bse: wheeeeee! due to great fortune, my apple equipment is arriving tommorrow! =D
2001-04-04 09:08:29-06
Bitscape: People, are we having fun or what?
2001-04-04 23:13:58-06
bse: omg! this TiBook farkin' rocks! Mmmmmm.. keyboard will take a little getting used to though.. other than that, its just wonderful...
2001-04-05 08:18:05-06
bse: finally got OS X installed on this mutha.. let me tell you, it's damn smooth! this explorer 5.1 beta is a tad iffy though....
2001-04-05 17:43:05-06
Jäger: You got 0.8.1 running on it?
2001-04-05 17:50:56-06
Bitscape: What do you know about wireless phones and modems?
2001-04-05 21:57:24-06
bse: mozilla 0.8.1 for osX? really? i'll have to check that out.. this IE is a dog to run...
2001-04-06 07:57:38-06
Jäger: Let me clarify that I have no real information about 0.8.1 on X. But I assume *someone* has tried it.
2001-04-06 08:25:55-06
bse: hmm, i saw some OS X items on last months mozillazine status reports. i might get it at some point...
2001-04-06 17:25:45-06
Jäger wonders if he's bored enough to hunt down an OS X box and convince Mozilla to run on it.
2001-04-06 20:36:53-06
Jäger: So Bitscape, where'd you find The T'Inator?
2001-04-08 01:10:56-06
Bitscape: Oh, that was a link off a k5 submission I was moderating.
2001-04-08 08:14:27-06
Bitscape notes that Jaeger must be studying his apache logs rather meticulously.
2001-04-08 08:24:24-06
Jäger studies the logs referencing his journals meticulously.
2001-04-08 11:17:04-06
Bitscape: Hmmmm.... Let's give Jaeger something interesting to look at...
2001-04-08 12:49:56-06
Bitscape: Woohoo! I'll be there.
2001-04-08 13:22:05-06
Bitscape: For those who want to add to Jaeger's meticulous amusement, I might recommend this script.
2001-04-08 13:23:40-06
Jäger isn't sure whether to be impressed or disturbed.
2001-04-08 15:16:52-06
bse will attempt to be there
2001-04-08 21:15:04-06
Jäger attempts to convince himself to do his physical electronics homework
2001-04-10 16:52:12-06
bouncing: Scott: Where is Peter? I need to get a hold of that crazy kid and he never reads his email or answers his phone...
2001-04-10 19:53:02-06
Bitscape checks in from heavy blizzard country.
2001-04-11 08:19:12-06
Jäger misses the snow
2001-04-11 13:53:26-06
bouncing ponders ZODB
2001-04-11 18:47:53-06
Jäger filed his taxes long ago (ok, spring break) and got his federal refund already
2001-04-13 00:29:19-06
Humblik actual had his taxes done around spring break, but just mail them in yesterday.
2001-04-13 00:43:20-06
Humblik: I really need to update my changelog engine to the latest version.
2001-04-13 00:43:59-06
Jäger: Yes. Unfortunatly, this would requrie a new version of Battery Content Farming System to be released.
2001-04-13 13:58:07-06
bouncing owes $15 this year.
2001-04-13 17:40:55-06
bouncing: and by "owe" I mean that legally owe. Ethicly I am owed a full refund for "income taxes."
2001-04-13 17:42:16-06
Neelix: I may have posted something in the content collective.
2001-04-13 19:10:27-06
Neelix: ...and yes. Jaeger, when you check the logs, I did use IE5 to make that last comment. I had played starcraft and was too lazy to reboot. :-)
2001-04-13 19:11:38-06
Jäger: Oh, so is my log-checking the stuff of legends now?
2001-04-13 19:41:23-06
Jäger points out that one can download Mozilla for Windows. Mozilla is the only browser I'm aware of that properly displays the png transparencies in my page. (Although I've heard NetPositive might.)
2001-04-13 19:42:58-06
bouncing points out that you can download Linux, and get rid of windows altogether.
2001-04-13 20:52:46-06
bouncing: From talk session: "[Scott's degree is] a bs degree ... IN BS!"
2001-04-13 20:59:04-06
bse: PPC IE5 displays transparent pngs just fine.
2001-04-14 22:22:13-06
bse: (if anyone is interested and doesnt already know, that is) oh, and i actually started creating some new content, but enough of that, i need to sleep...
2001-04-14 22:24:01-06
Humblik: I just noticed there is an IE 6 preview now. :-P
2001-04-14 22:46:02-06
Humblik: Wow, Dr. Show can be quite profound at times. I just read the quote from 24 August 1999.
2001-04-14 23:15:32-06
Bitscape: I do indeed read Humblik's changelogs, as they all get posted to Content Solutions headlines.
2001-04-15 00:49:38-06
Bitscape: Either I don't understand the description right, or cannot reproduce the bug you are referring to. For me, the links do show up on all sides when you go to the ground view of the tile linked to.
2001-04-15 00:50:55-06
bse: all fine for me too, humblink
2001-04-15 09:57:43-06
Humblik: I was actually meaning at the ground level. I was expecting to be able to enter a new message instead of linking to a different message path. The example I gave shows the message path going north, east, and south. The link to the west looks like I should be able to enter a new message instead of linking to a possibly non-related message. I was thinking it would be nice to have some sort of indicator that there was a different message path in these types of situations.
2001-04-15 20:29:35-06
Humblik: I hope that makes more since.
2001-04-15 20:32:05-06
Neelix: Yes, NetPositive handles the transparencies for PNGs fine. It's part of the beauty of Be's Translator system. They write the PNG translator correctly once, and it works that way in all apps, including NetPositive (The BeOS's Browser, for the less informed)
2001-04-15 21:21:18-06
Humblik: After 20 minutes of mindlessly click the reload button I finally got to see Dr. Show's quote. Maybe I should just ask for Jaeger's quote file.
2001-04-15 21:57:32-06
Humblik: er. guess that should be clicking.
2001-04-15 21:59:10-06
Humblik: Mmm, mindless clicking is such a nice way to avoid studying.
2001-04-15 22:00:25-06
Bitscape: Um, I think the fact that it's filled in solid at the edge using the color of the neighboring tile should indicate that something exists there, even if there wasn't a creation path to or from it. Does NetPositive display that? (Or, wild guess: maybe the NetPositive renderer leaves table cells that don't have any text transparent even if their bgcolor attribute is set?)
2001-04-15 22:25:13-06
Bitscape: What's hilarious is that I have no idea how the Collective looks in IE, even though that's the browser that, what, 80 or 90 percent of web surfers supposable use now. But nobody has complained, so I assume either it looks fine, or nobody is surfing the Collective with IE. So I'm not worried about it. ;)
2001-04-15 22:28:10-06
Linknoid: Well, Bitscape, I just tried out content collective on IE from the Microlab, and it looks just fine. BTW, can someone provide a link to the above referenced Dr. Show quote?
2001-04-16 08:43:25-06
bse: well bitscape, as you already know i'm a ppc owner now, IE is currently the browser of choice (i tried out iCab, but frankly, it's worse than konquereror); and no problems with teh collective at my 15.2" widescreen end. :)
2001-04-16 09:05:38-06
bse: i havent dared to download ppc mozilla yet.. maybe i'll do that later...
2001-04-16 09:09:45-06
Jäger: The Dr. Show quote is one of the n quotes that my content engine randomly picks. Reload until you find it.
2001-04-16 09:54:29-06
Jäger: Or, check the top Content Collective tile.
2001-04-16 10:00:49-06
bouncing: A shameless attempt by jaeger to draw traffic to his website... shameless... (read more about this and other interesting topics at kenkinder.com)
2001-04-16 12:18:44-06
scott: i just have to throw in my 2 cents - if you're making a table, or cell, and it's empty, but you want to show of a bcolor, then use the code for a blank space & n b s p ; - and then check your site at validator.w3.org and most all browsers will be fine with it. then you won't )
2001-04-16 13:44:28-06
scott: have to worry. damn site cut me off.
2001-04-16 13:45:08-06
Bitscape: Yeah, I use the nbsp trick, but I wasn't sure whether it worked in NetPositive or not. Thanks for pointing it out though.
2001-04-16 17:45:47-06
Bitscape: It's good to know that my (relatively) standard html also looks good in IE.
2001-04-16 17:47:11-06
Jäger: I have yet to locate the "interesting" topics discussed on kenkinder.com.
2001-04-16 19:25:59-06
Humblik: Ahh, color bar. I guess I missed that.
2001-04-17 00:07:01-06
Humblik tries to remove foot from mouth and realizes it may have been stuck there for quite some time.
2001-04-17 00:19:42-06
bse realises there was an irc.. hmm.. i was hacking some html around 4 or 5 this morning...
2001-04-17 07:40:52-06
Jäger supposes he should announce it a little better next time around.
2001-04-17 11:35:20-06
Linknoid: I saw a message on slashdot that is so moderated it's funny: Moderation Totals:Flamebait=2, Troll=3, Insightful=2, Interesting=1, Funny=3, Overrated=2, Total=13
2001-04-17 17:10:04-06
bouncing uses the non-break-space hack all the time.
2001-04-17 17:45:04-06
bouncing: AMAIF, we have a special convention put into our template language at [my employer] to insert variables with defaults that are used for blank strings. Just set the default to non-breaking space.
2001-04-17 17:46:41-06
Jäger: That guy's an artist. Take a look at his other posts.
2001-04-17 18:25:10-06
bouncing: The AOL one was funny. I can't believe some moderators thought it real... Reminds me of Scott's Content Solutions posts... those aren't supposed to be taken seriously, are they?
2001-04-18 00:11:34-06
Jäger: Want to know what else Clippy is doing these days?
2001-04-18 09:55:54-06
Anonymous Coward prepares to fail his physical electronics test
2001-04-20 13:59:16-06
Anonymous Coward prepares to fail his physical electronics test
2001-04-20 13:59:16-06
Jäger: Someone has way too much time on his hands. Funny.
2001-04-20 15:26:57-06
bouncing: WTF? [www.openvms.compaq.com]
2001-04-20 23:00:28-06
bse: i went out today, and met some people from an irc channel i live in.
2001-04-21 20:50:53-06
Jäger: Mass irc! Tomorrow night!
2001-04-22 15:13:05-06
Bitscape: Once again, I plan to attend.
2001-04-22 20:44:41-06
bse: i'll try not to forget this time :)
2001-04-22 20:56:00-06
bse: i'll try not to forget this time :)
2001-04-22 20:56:01-06
bse: aahhH! stupid IE
2001-04-22 20:56:24-06
Jäger: Bitscape: the blue vase mentioned in the latest Gem's Spam is really a Bawl's Guarana bottle.
2001-04-23 08:46:00-06
Bitscape: lol. I never would have guessed.
2001-04-23 19:51:14-06
Jäger: What are the odds that a frequent Content Solutions poster has a connection to bovine spongiform encephalopathy?
2001-04-24 22:34:07-06
bse: hmmm
2001-04-25 06:14:33-06
Jäger: Borrow your coworker's copy of today's Wall Street Journal and look at the right column of the front page, about halfway down.
2001-04-26 14:06:30-06
Jäger registers for CU/Boulder summer session
2001-04-26 15:04:39-06
Jäger: If you've got a Windows box handy, visit Here and click "Summer could bring more power crises" under the Nightly News.
2001-04-27 13:49:09-06
Humblik: Jaeger, I think the link is already too old. I could find it.
2001-04-27 22:27:43-06
Humblik: er, that should be 'couldn't'
2001-04-27 22:28:10-06
Galaxy Commander Nibbler: Niblonian fleet holding at perimiter of moron zone.
2001-04-27 23:02:30-06
bse: why does dhtml suck so much in mozilla? my site looks like arse in it.. bah.. stupid netscape...
2001-04-29 09:17:36-06
Bitscape: Well, obviously if you try to use the old proprietary Netscape 4 Layers DOM, it won't work. Have you tried the w3c DOM?
2001-04-29 11:14:18-06
bse: actually, i was complaning about the CSS part.. if you have a div layer inside another one - in IE they expand together when there is content. but in mozilla the layer inside a layer expands, but the bottom layer doesnt.
2001-04-30 07:19:11-06
bse: so i've had to hardcode teh size of the backing layers, just so it doesnt look like arse in mozilla. which i can tell you really pissed me off.
2001-04-30 07:20:22-06
Bitscape: Ah, I see what you mean.
2001-04-30 21:36:39-06
Jäger: we're back!
2001-04-30 21:40:59-06
Bitscape: I too have noticed that Mozilla does not resize parent elements based on the size of child nodes. Like you say, it pretty much requires you to set everything up to the top level element in order to work.
2001-04-30 23:45:45-06
Bitscape: Not sure what the w3c says about this. My bet would be that it's one of those undefined aspects of the spec.
2001-04-30 23:46:33-06