Humblik: Hmm, yes now that I do try to put the brain in first gear, it does make since that Bush would be the most dominant Republican candidate.
2003-07-01 00:23:41
Humblik wonders how many politicians are still being bought by corporations and individuals.
2003-07-01 00:25:41
Humblik: I'm about half way through reading Citizen Hughes.
2003-07-01 00:26:58
Yanthor: Bitscape, what do you think of Kiln People? (Without spoilers)
2003-07-04 09:55:16
Jäger: Perhaps the fact that I had to be to work the following morning had some effect on how late I was willing to stay up at sgalvin's gathering.
2003-07-04 17:12:03
Bitscape: Yanthor, I am enjoying it immensely so far. I'll post more comments about it after I finish.
2003-07-05 19:05:21
Yanthor: You seem to like Brin's writing, so I would highly recommend The Postman and The Practice Effect. The Postman is what the movie is based off of but it is over 10x better! You should read it while forgetting everything about the movie because there is little factual similarity.
2003-07-06 10:11:14
Yanthor: The Practice Effect is still a scifi novel but with more of the feel of a fantasy novel. Brin wondered what a world would be like where one of the laws of thermodynamics were different. So he chose one and extrapolated a world that could arise with those conditions. I rate it as the least heavy, content
2003-07-06 10:13:48
Yanthor: -wise, of all of his books. So if you choose to read it, read it more for the story. And I do think the story is quite charming.
2003-07-06 10:15:52
Yanthor: I have not read any of his other books. You know how many authors have one big universe that they have created? (Lucas = Star Wars) Brin's is the Uplift Universe. I believe he has written at least nine novels set in that Universe. I don't know a lot about it, only that he really likes it. I continue to stick to his standalone novels for now. I'm currently pondering reading Kiln People as well as buying one of his books of short stories.
2003-07-06 10:17:56
Yanthor: After Anya and I finished reading Glory Season she reread it while at work the last several days. Details she pointed out from the second reading solved our debate once and for all as to what happened to Rena.
2003-07-06 10:19:47
Linknoid: Too bad about your work situation, Bitscape. When you decided to quit a job with a reliable wage, I was kind of worried that something like that might happen to you.
2003-07-07 11:06:47
Linknoid: Have you been earning as much overall as you did at the deli?
2003-07-07 11:07:45
Yanthor: I guess if I were your dad I would have told you that before you gave up a reliable wage to take the job. While I see his point about outlook, knowing that going in can help you keep a positive outlook that if you tough out the hard part, it can only get better.
2003-07-07 11:30:08
Yanthor: I wouldn't want my kid to go into a job that I had suggested without knowing all there is to know about the circumstances of the job. But that's just me.
2003-07-07 11:31:01
Bitscape: He didn't know they were going to be constantly assigning me such lousy stores. (He has mentioned in the past that some days, he gets good stores, and other days he gets lousy stores. But he has usually gotten reasonably good stores at least some of the time.)
2003-07-07 15:35:31
Bitscape: He said he will no longer be referring people he knows to this job.
2003-07-07 15:36:21
bouncing: Debt-free and with alot of car left. Nice.
2003-07-07 23:21:30
Yanthor: Bitscape: Yes, I understand that now from your most recent rambling. That was nice of your dad to apologize. It does seem like he honestly didn't realize they were giving new people such a raw deal.
2003-07-07 23:38:24
Yanthor: Yeah, the decent car provides you with actual net worth! :-)
2003-07-07 23:39:09
Yanthor: I hate working with Java Servlets. (I spent almost 6 months total in this job working on one.)
2003-07-11 15:23:26
Yanthor: I think Java itself is a pretty decent language. I mean it's no C, but for a protected language it is actually quite nice to work in. What I hate about it is its massive inefficiency.
2003-07-11 16:00:49
drizzt: i suggest watching this
2003-07-11 19:47:34
drizzt: [www.fireflyfans.net]
2003-07-11 19:47:41
Linknoid: When things are going the way you might like: [www.snopes.com]
2003-07-12 19:30:09
Bitscape: Firefly looked to be an interesting show, but now it's been canceled, wouldn't watching it be a little like reading the first half of a novel that's never going to be finished?
2003-07-12 22:02:01
drizzt: i guess, but the thirteen episodes are worth watching. kinda like watching crusade i suppose
2003-07-13 12:15:47
bouncing: [www.salon.com]
2003-07-13 21:56:38
Humblik: I may have to add Firefly to my growing list of series that have been canceled.
2003-07-14 15:41:58
Humblik: Along with SAAB, Earth2, and Crusade.
2003-07-14 15:43:14
Bitscape: Political activism meets Magic: The Gathering. (But the casting cost looks a bit low to me.) [geeks4dean.com]
2003-07-14 19:29:42
Delila: www.frugaljohn.com
2003-07-14 22:53:34
Bitscape: Public service announcement: The above referenced url appears to be spam, and does contain nudity.
2003-07-14 23:05:50
Bitscape: Then again, if you happen to be looking for escorts on the west coast, it might just be your thing.
2003-07-14 23:13:21
Bitscape considers the possibility that it could have been posted by somebody who has read some of the past content here, and was attempting to make a recommendation. If I a) lived in one of the areas covered, and b) still had an income, it might hold some appeal. Maybe in another eon.
2003-07-14 23:19:45
Humblik: Dr. Howard Dean does seem to have a low casting cost.
2003-07-15 23:03:11
Humblik: Maybe if they added a cumulative upkeep of each of the colors.
2003-07-15 23:03:54
Bitscape: heh, yeah. That would be more in line with the creature's strength and ability.
2003-07-15 23:12:15
Jäger: Smoke testing at iTi today!
2003-07-16 07:43:53
Jäger: [www.everything2.com]
2003-07-16 07:45:50
Bitscape: No comment needed: [www.theonion.com]
2003-07-16 10:41:09
Humblik: One must be careful not to meander too far when perusing www.everything2.com, for many hours may be spent lost within its depths.
2003-07-17 17:35:06
Dennis Foster: [web.utanet.at]
2003-07-17 23:29:59
Humblik: We just at a power outage about 10 minutes ago. Looks like Chiana will need restarted.
2003-07-18 02:51:10
Humblik: There is some new construction to the east of our apartments. I heard a small explosion from that general area. I suspect something there caused the outage.
2003-07-18 02:52:36
Yanthor: Due to the power outage and me still running vanilla Redhat 7.1 on Chiana, Chiana is down until I can get home from work and fsck it back to health :-( I hope it will be up in less than two hours.
2003-07-18 14:20:56
Yanthor: I hope to install Redhat 9 soon and see if I can have it use something other than fs2 for everything.
2003-07-18 14:21:47
bouncing recalls that when Howard Dean spoke in Austin, he illuded to being displeased with the FCC's (then so-far successful) hijacking of the radio waves.
2003-07-20 14:46:51
Jäger: Moving! moving! fun for the whole family!
2003-07-20 16:26:02
Bitscape: bouncing, see what he said about it in Lessig's blog: [cyberlaw.stanford.edu]
2003-07-20 17:40:28
bouncing: Interesting!
2003-07-20 21:42:41
bouncing: If Howard sells us out on his DMCA policy, I'm not sure who I'll vote for. Maybe Green, but it sure would suck to have another four years of Cheney^H^H^H^H^H^H Bush.
2003-07-20 22:35:11
Humblik: I just got polled today, and was rather frustrated that I had to respond, "I don't know," on around 2/3 of the questions.
2003-07-21 01:59:09
Humblik: That nagging issue of actually paying attention to my environment and the world around me keeps coming back to haunt me.
2003-07-21 02:01:57
Linknoid: The problem is that the federal government is too big. More power needs to be focus on the more local governments instead.
2003-07-21 11:57:41
bouncing: Basically the reason our system is so federalized, is that rural states move too slowly. If it weren't for federal intervention, the South would still be seggregated, environmental laws would only exist on the coastal states, etc. I used to be a libertarian, then I realized that the most libertarian state out there is probably Mexico, not a desirable place to live.
2003-07-21 16:50:50
bouncing: (nation-state)
2003-07-21 16:51:20
Bitscape: Go Boulder! [www.dailycamera.com]
2003-07-21 16:57:13
Yanthor: Since Jaeger doesn't have commenting capability, I'll post here. Wow, he only had to sign one lease page? On our apartment lease, Anya and I each have to initial 5 or 6 pages, then initial, sign and date 2 separate pages on the main contract, and each sign about 5 other forms.
2003-07-21 17:03:03
Jäger: Technically I was the "other resident" on the lease, since Gem was doing all of it for us, but there was only one blank for my autograph, and it didn't seem too crazy.
2003-07-21 20:05:56
Jäger: (I should probably get around to actually *reading* the lease. Gem did, and mentioned a few of its features.
2003-07-21 20:07:04
Jäger: The lease specifically says that we are to put nothing larger than a pea down the garbage disposal.
2003-07-21 20:07:20
Jäger shuts Ziyal down for moving to The New Apartment
2003-07-21 20:46:17
Linknoid likes putting stuff down the garbage disposal
2003-07-21 22:05:07
Linknoid: But usually nothing bigger than a baked potato.
2003-07-21 22:05:44
Jäger wonders if it's Bush's foreign policy to only send troops where they're not wanted
2003-07-22 11:33:02
Zan Lynx: If they wanted you there, you wouldn't need to send troops.
2003-07-22 12:03:35
Jäger: [www.nytimes.com]
2003-07-22 12:21:34
Yanthor: Bitscape, the Federal Reserve is a "commission nominated by the representative government". Alan Greenspan does not dictate monetary policy. He is the head, so he gets the press. But he also gets press because he has been near perfect at everything he does. He is the head of the Federal Reserve and thus has some power, but he cannot make major decisions--or at least permanent major decisions--alone. When you hear of the "Fed Meeting" it is the Federal Reserve Board. It is comprised of the heads of the regional Federal Reserve branches and I think some other people.
2003-07-23 07:25:33
Yanthor: I believe all of them are nominated and confirmed to terms the same way Greenspan is. Greenspan has the power to take swift action to stave off disaster, as he did in 1987 after Black Tuesday, but when big decisions are made, it takes at least a majority to decide and they are not always in agreement.
2003-07-23 07:27:20
Yanthor: I know you're frustrated with the job situation, and I don't blame you at all, but I don't think that's Alan Greenspan or the Fed's fault. They try their best to keep a stable, growing economy. There are two sides to economic control: Monetary Policy and Fiscal Policy.
2003-07-23 07:28:58
Yanthor: Monetary Policy is what the Fed does. The major tasks of Monetary Policy are: Regulating the supply of money and controlling interest rates. Fiscal policy is what the government does: raising or lowering taxes, laws regarding commerce and employment, trade policy, and all of that fun stuff.
2003-07-23 07:30:46
Yanthor: I actually think we have a pretty good system because there is a division of powers in the economic arena, as well as the political arena. The decisions congress and the president makes are motivated solely on political basis. From what I in Economics and "Economic history of the U.S." it is usually the Fed who is the benevolent compensator for Congress and the President's stupidity. I would be terrified of the possibility of congress getting the Fed's power. In fact they had it once, and it was a huge political reform to create the Fed after Congress had not used the power responsibly.
2003-07-23 07:34:43
Yanthor: Regarding the deficit spending right now, while I hate debt as much as the next person, it is not such a bad idea to deficit spend in times of economic hard times. One of the basic tenents of Economics is that when the economy starts to go bad, the smartest thing for an individual to do is to save their money and not go into debt for new purchases (since their own job is less of a sure thing).
2003-07-23 07:37:04
Yanthor: But those decisions add up and what is smart for the individual to do, is bad for the economy in general and helps deepen the recession. Optimally, Government should cut taxes and raise domestic spending in a recession and run a deficit so as to stimulate the economy again. Then in good times, they should raise taxes and run a surplus to pay off the debt accumulated in bad times. Sadly, in good times, government only raises taxes and/or raises spending. They can't control themselves to run a surplus and pay down debt. Also, in a recession, governments tend to raise taxes as their tax income shrinks, which only worsens the problem. Thus we are left to the Fed's monetary policy to bail us out all the time. So often in recessions, while the Fed does the smartest thing it can to help the economy, the government is doing the worst thing possible for the economy with their Fiscal Policy.
2003-07-23 07:41:23
Yanthor: I'm shocked that our government actually cut taxes when they needed to to help the economy. What bothers me is that so many of the tax breaks were for companies. The best way to stimulate the economy (I was taught) is to give the same numerical amount of tax break to every individual. Example: everyone get's an additional $1000 off of their normal tax burden, and mail out bonus checks for the difference immediately. Giving the same numerical amount of bonus to everyone will cause many of those people to go right out and spend it. When companies get tax breaks, they don't necessarily spend the money, and if they do, it might not be in the U.S. where it can help our economy.
2003-07-23 07:45:01
Jäger fondly remembers learning most of that stuff in economics two summers ago
2003-07-23 08:16:24
Yanthor: Sorry, I didn't mean to come across as a know-it-all. I only tried to explain the basics of ecomics as I was taught them. I also questioned everythig that didn't make complete sense to me, and this stuff also made good sense to me.
2003-07-23 08:19:26
Bitscape: Yanthor, thanks for the comments. One thing that frustrated me about the piece I linked to was the lack of specific citations for a lot of the information. For example, he quotes economist Henry Pasquet as saying that the "the Fed is a privately owned, for-profit corporation which has no reserves." Where, on in what publication Henry Pasquet said this is not given.
2003-07-23 14:13:44
Bitscape: The Federal Reserve's own page gives a different story, which agrees with what you learned in economics. [www.federalreserve.gov]
2003-07-23 14:15:26
Bitscape: That said, much of the underlying logic explained in The Money Changers made a great deal of sense to me. Especially the sections on how banks initially materialized, the economic conditions leading up the the colonial war (which does correspond to what I learned in history class), and the inherently corrupt nature of banks being able to loan out (or issue notes) worth many times the value of the currency they actually have in reserve.
2003-07-23 14:24:43
Bitscape: The National Debt is in the trillions of dollars. Who is this money owed to? Correct me if I'm wrong; but isn't the overwhelming bulk of it owed to financial institutions in the form of federal bonds and reserve notes?
2003-07-23 14:29:58
Bitscape: Given this, doesn't it make sense that the owners of these bonds would hold an incredible sway over national government policy, to the potential detriment of the rest of us? With the government indebted to the banks to such a large degree, the only thing to keep it from crashing to a halt is the continued patronage of the banks in the form of buying more bonds when they are reissued.
2003-07-23 14:36:13
Bitscape: But as long as the government more or less does the banks' bidding, they are happy to continue to finance deficit spending. With interest, of course.
2003-07-23 14:38:10
Bitscape: I have long had doubts and questions about these matters, even when I was employed in a nice job with good pay. It's just that now, when I'm unemployed, I end up with much more time to read and ponder all these nutty theories. :)
2003-07-23 14:40:54
bouncing: My understanding is, some of the national debt is in the form of bonds, that's the better part. The rest amounts to an overdraft on the national level. No one underwrote the war in Iraq, that's the government literally spending money that doesn't exist. The economics professor at UTSA does content that it amounts to printing money, but it doesn't appear that way because of electronic commerce.
2003-07-23 16:22:56
bouncing: The impact is, the Bush administration has raised taxes in the sense that billions of dollars are being committed. The fact that it hasn't yet been collected is not really relevant to the discussion. The Bush administration raised taxes -- peroid.
2003-07-23 16:23:59
Bitscape: bouncing, if you followed the document I linked to a couple days ago, then one might logically conclude that electronic commerce is the next currency bubble already in progess.
2003-07-23 16:59:43
Bitscape: Take paypal for instance. How long before enough people start using paypal for most of their online transactions that paypal decides that they can give people more money in their accounts than paypal has in reserve? (Because, it is, afterall, just a field in a database.)
2003-07-23 18:02:25
Bitscape: Paypal is not (yet) regulated as a bank, but if they start getting into the lending business (which they already arguably are, to a certain extent), and lend more money than they have by virtue of being the broker, then the whole mess gets repeated all over again.
2003-07-23 18:04:52
Bitscape: But that's a tangent.
2003-07-23 18:05:11
Bitscape: I agree with bouncing that running a massive federal deficit is bad fiscal policy. Though I can see Yanthor's point about stimulating the economy, deficits only do so at the expense of future prosperity.
2003-07-23 18:13:24
Yanthor: Precisely. The whole point is that since people individually tend to do what is bad for the economy as a whole, fiscal and monetary policy should do the opposites, thus stabalizing the economy.
2003-07-24 00:11:34
Yanthor: Regarding national debt, I do not believe the government ever spends money that doesn't exist. As far as I know, the national debt is financed exclusively through government-backed securities. Treasury notes, bonds, CDs, and such. These can be held by anyone in the world, but unlike stock, the holders get no say in the institution. To say that holders of them sway the government is rediculous.
2003-07-24 00:13:44
Yanthor: The goverment does what it darn well pleases as the president and congress decide to do things. The advantage the debt-holders get is to get interest on their money by holding some of the most solid securities in the world.
2003-07-24 00:15:11
Yanthor: In fact, the last numbers I saw in the Wall Street Journal stated that about 60% of the national debt was held by non-american interests. The article went on to discuss whether this was a good thing or a bad thing. It can be considered either.
2003-07-24 00:16:35
Yanthor: The article also said that percentage has been steadily raising.
2003-07-24 00:17:27
Yanthor: It's funny, liberals are bashing Bush for running a deficit now during a bad economy, but when FDR did it with the New Deal, why, that was genius and the right thing to do.
2003-07-24 00:18:20
Yanthor: ...on another topic, I wonder how long this "Nation at war" propoganda campaign is going to last?
2003-07-24 00:20:35
Kiesa: Wasn't FDR's focus in spending the money a little different?
2003-07-24 08:41:47
Yanthor: Kiesa: I think it was somewhat. He pumped a lot of money into work and social programs. That wouldn't work as well now even if it were done because the global economy is tied so much tighter together. In his day, the money they paid people in those work programs, went right into buying american-made goods. Now when people spend money they get from tax breaks, that money goes to many countries.
2003-07-24 09:28:55
Yanthor: But portions of it do get spent in this country and does help local businesses and employees.
2003-07-24 09:30:27
Yanthor: My main point, though, is running a deficit still helps stimulate an economy in the short term. For example, my father works for a company that builds communications systems for the military. The new defense spending is helping his company, its workers and their city noticeably. And they are just one of a huge number of subcontractors. If taxes were raised right now to match that spending, the help would be erased. However, if they are raised two years from now when the economy is better (or spending is decreased) that won't be as bad because the rebounded economy will make it easier to handle.
2003-07-24 09:34:10
Yanthor: I also do not believe Bouncing's comment to be 100% correct: "The Bush administration raised taxes -- peroid." If the economy rebounds in two years, spending is cut a bit, and the budget is balanced and remains balanced, inflation will continue to eat away at the national debt and in "n" number of years it will essentially be back to the same size it is now.
2003-07-24 09:37:07
Yanthor: Yes, I know, I am pesimistic about government's ability to control its spending also. That's why I'm not thrilled about this deficit now. Even though I believe that is the smart way to run fiscal policy, I doubt the government will do the rest of the plan and run a heafty surplus during good times. Thus I'd rather not see them running deficits at all and let the Fed handle the economy.
2003-07-24 09:39:19
Yanthor: According to a site I just found, the national debt is at $6.7295 Trillion. Inflation was 2% last year. 2% of that is $134 Billion. That is a sizeable percentage of the $500 something Billion that is our current deficit. All we have to do is balance the budget for a few years in good times, and this deficit is gone.
2003-07-24 09:44:52
Linknoid: I fear that the only way America can retain its way of life is with protectionist policies, which are generally unfavorable.
2003-07-24 11:14:57
Linknoid: But as long as companies can keep getting the same job done overseas for 1/10th the price in labor, it's going to end up turning us into a nation of pure importers, and that's definitely not good for country's economy.
2003-07-24 11:16:20
Linknoid: But its not going to be the people who are already rich that will suffer, it will be the people who actually do the work who won't have any job anymore.
2003-07-24 11:17:40
bouncing: The problem with the "running deficit" theory is, the idea is you lower taxes and therefor more money is spent. But almost all the tax cuts have been for business -- which tends not to spend the savings, but rather keep it for safekeeping. This recession has been the longest one since the late 70s -- if Bush's economic policy is worth its salt, why has this arguably been the worst economic recovery in the past 50 years?
2003-07-24 11:51:35
bouncing: But we're not experts. People who are (economists) consistently say Bush is wrong, and I'm inclined to think they are right.
2003-07-24 11:52:27
Yanthor: Other people who are economists consistently say Bush is right.
2003-07-24 11:54:45
Yanthor: bouncing: I'm not thrilled about the tax breaks for the businesses either. Like I said earlier, I thought it should have been more individual focused and the same dollar amount across the board. But also remember that the economy doesn't just change over night. As we've both admitted, economics is very very complex. You can't just make a simle A = B argument. A: since the economic recovery isn't happening the way we want, then B: Bush's economic policy is not worth its salt.
2003-07-24 11:57:36
Yanthor: Remember the Asian economic problems and how they hurt America during the later years of Clinton's presidency. We could have the best economic policies there are, but if Europe and Asia are in a headlong recession, things wouldn't be that peachy here.
2003-07-24 12:00:08
Yanthor: It seems to me that regarding economics, a less pragmatic approach is neccessary. It's interesting to watch, but even professional economists argue non-stop about this same exact stuff.
2003-07-24 12:01:31
Yanthor: Linknoid: regarding your comments about work moving overseas, that has begun to worry me more and more over the past months. I'm especially worried about most types of software development. I think IT infrastructure providers are mostly safe, but most software development is not. If Microsoft was landing on hard times like the other firms, I bet they would be opening software development buildings in China and India too.
2003-07-24 12:03:24
Yanthor: I'm beginning to think that I may need to switch careers in around 10 years or so. Or maybe I'm saying that just because I'll want to in order to get out of the corporate crap.
2003-07-24 12:04:20
Yanthor: At least my current rung of the corporate crap ladder.
2003-07-24 12:04:41
Yanthor: By that I don't mean that I'd be happy if I was a manager, I mean...I don't know what I mean. I'm just sick of the Business bull shit and lousy wages.
2003-07-24 12:05:37
Bitscape: Welcome to the club.
2003-07-24 12:30:07
Yanthor: lol. I figured I'd pollute your logs. I'm posting right now from IE5.0 on MacOS 8.5.1 :-) (It's one of our test systems for replicating customers' problems.)
2003-07-25 11:09:05
bouncing: $50 says you can't name a single economist who works for a respected institution of higher learning besides U of Chicago who defends Bush. My understanding from talking to UTSA economics staff is that in the non-media economics arena, it's universally agreed upon: Karl Rove (Bush)'s policy is disasterous.
2003-07-25 22:52:41
Bitscape: Them's fighting words.
2003-07-25 23:44:37
Yanthor: Bouncing, you didn't respond to my main point, which was that Economics seems unique to many other fields in that professional economists seem to disagree about everything. The field seems as chaotic as human beings themselves. It's not like fields like physics or chemistry where basically everything taught in under-graduate classes has been scientific fact for many many years.
2003-07-26 00:21:49
Yanthor: Regarding your challenge, I feel it is rash and narrow-minded. Rash, because you again seem to assume that economics is a much less chaotic field than it is. Narrow-minded because you are assuming that the best and most wisest economists are only in institutions of higher learning. From my experience institutions of higher learning seem to attract liberals while business seems to attract conservatives and I would argue that the economists employed by businesses are just as effective as ones employed by universities. Also, the term "respected" can be interpreted differently by different people.
2003-07-26 00:22:00
Yanthor: So while I feel your $50 challenge is not worthy of a response, curiousity got the better of me and I did a google search. Almost immediately I came upon this article: [www.usatoday.com] in which Martin Feldstein an economics professor at Harvard University defends Bush's current use of deficits while saying that they would need to be controlled in the long term. But this wild question isn't the point. The point is, a less pragmatic approach is necessary for field that is as confusing as the human species itself--for Economics is based on human choices. Since you don't seem to agree, I see no point in continuing this discussion.
2003-07-26 00:22:10
bouncing: *shrug*
2003-07-26 10:45:33
bouncing: Ultimately, no one can prove anything because there is no control group, so I guess you're right in that all it really amounts to is speculation. More of a philosophy than a science.
2003-07-26 10:49:47
Jäger wishes for a net connection at home
2003-07-28 08:25:10
Bitscape: This one made me laugh. A photo of Howard Dean attending a luncheon with supporters. [blog.deanforamerica.com]
2003-07-28 15:36:53
Jäger: What about The Pseudo-employed for Dean? :)
2003-07-29 09:51:38
Jäger watched the second season finale of Alias last night.
2003-07-29 09:51:57
Jäger: All I can say is ... wow.
2003-07-29 09:52:08
Yanthor: Jaeger: Yeah, I agree! It's pretty cool. Have you watched all two seasons now?
2003-07-29 10:10:19
Jäger: Yep. Now I may have to figure out how to get broadcast tv to watch the third season... or just get broadband and hang out on tvtorrents.com. :)
2003-07-29 12:39:31
Jäger: [alias spoiler] Discussion about third season: [www.scifi.com]
2003-07-29 13:10:36
Yanthor: Jaeger: ...or you could convince Humblik to encode them for you. :-)
2003-07-31 09:55:52
Jäger just might get his dsl modem today
2003-07-31 13:03:08
bestmaids: (singing) happy birthday to u bitsy!
2003-07-31 21:57:13
bestmaids: If you are around YAK, can you pleeeaaaassse call us?!?!
2003-07-31 21:58:13
BestMaids: MULU
2003-07-31 21:58:41
BestMaids: MULU
2003-07-31 21:58:44
Jäger: Kiesa (aka Yak) is trying Angie's wireless phone.
2003-07-31 22:05:44
Jäger: Which wasn't on. So if you'd like voice communication, could you provide a live number?
2003-07-31 22:06:50
Bitscape: Whatup, BestMaids? Long time, no see. :)
2003-07-31 23:45:28
